You were some of the first designers to engage with “design for all”, i.e. those objects that cater to permanent or temporary disabilities or simply facilitate the actions and movements of those who are less able due to age. Do you think these objects, also designed from an aesthetic point of view to bring them outside the “medical” sphere, have helped to make people aware of these sorts of needs?
Given the reactions we’ve had, the strange thing was taking them to SaloneSatellite at the Salone del Mobile! Design for All was the subject of my degree course at the Design Academy in Eindhoven, which we then developed for the No Country for Old Men collection. It’s based on the duality of design and beauty and on the concept of regarding objects that help everyday actions and getting around as furnishing accessories. This sort of object transforms domestic interiors, especially those of older people, with shapes and materials that aren’t very domestic. This is why we’ve replaced metal with wood and gone for a look that chimes with furnishing accessories. The items making up the collection are furnishings that provide a bit of extra help. But, although the market is ready for them – as the continual requests we receive show – the companies are not. Those in the medical sector find them too expensive, and those in the furnishing sector find them too connotative. There’s an identity black hole. We’ve tried to get them into production no less than five times, but always fallen flat. We try to imagine how people really live in their homes and how we can access them, playing with the product world.
Many of your projects stem from studying a material or experimenting with a technique, even if they have been commissions and not for personal research. Of the technologies, traditional or innovative, and the materials, natural or artificial, that’s you’ve tried so far, which has excited you the most?
Glass comes to mind. It’s a fascinating material, it makes you want to push yourself even further and the challenge is to see how far you can go and where it takes you. Clearly we always try to find the right balance between our dreams and the client’s demands.
What do you think the materials of the future will be? What values should they represent?
Another material we love is textiles. We believe they will be used more and more in the future. We’re living through an age of dematerialisation, thanks to technological tools, and there will be a growing demand for tactility, making contact with things. We’re trying to use textiles in a novel way. I think the materials of the future won’t just be those developed thanks to 3D printing and the new technological frontiers, which are undoubtedly interesting and are changing perspectives and the way they are being used. We’re more inclined to look to the past, to traditional materials and learn from the craftsmen who have always used them. For us, this is the starting point for taking a step forward.
What are the current themes linked to liveability? In general, and those you feel would be best to progress as far as possible.
We are interested in finding out what ageing at home means. One’s own home. It’s a topical need and one society will experience in the future. Then, everything around us is changing, but the archetypes in our homes haven’t changed. The way we interact with our furniture needs to be rethought and how objects can help our changing habits, our posture in relation to the implements we use. How we truly live at home.
Our usual question: what do you remember about taking part in SaloneSatellite? Albeit with two entirely diverse projects – in 2011 the Fragment Cabinet collection; the following year, the No Country for Old Men collection – both played on sensory perception and encouraged interaction. Were they greeted with the same enthusiasm?
My clearest memory is undoubtedly of the 2012 edition. As we said the No Country for Old Men collection sparked a lot of curiosity and interest. It was a ground-breaking collection. Besides which, the feedback was really useful. SaloneSatellite is a test bed, in the sense that you’re putting yourself and the product to the test, meeting and interacting with lots of different kinds of people: from journalists to entrepreneurs to students. Very useful.
A question for Francesca, the female half of the duo. You’re often included and invited to take part in initiatives and surveys dedicated to “women of design.” You’ve also won prizes under this banner. Do you see this demarcation as good or bad for women?
I wonder about that too. But like all the opportunities in life that can do good or bad, it’s an opportunity ripe for leveraging. But it needs to aim to draw out a sensitivity, i.e., it shouldn’t be a matter of sexual gender or, worse, a trend doomed to die out. I tell all young women designers to make the most of the opportunity to sharpen their nails and allow their own characters and creative skills and design potential to come to the fore.